Where are they now? - Asia
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This page last updated: 2 Dec 2018
 
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Asia
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Asia Official website; MySpace page; Twitter; Facebook; Official Google Group; authorised fan club
Asia were Geoff Downes (Yes; keys), John Wetton (MySpace page; ex-King Crimson, UK; bass, vocals), Carl Palmer (ex-Emerson, Lake & Palmer; drums) and Sam Coulson (Twitter; worked with Guthrie Govan; guitar). Wetton died in Jan 2017. He had been receiving treatment for colon cancer since May 2015 and Asia activity had been put on hold, although he and Downes wrote a new album through 2015-6. Touring was announced for 2017, but Wetton pulled out of the initial batch of dates to be announced in order to have another round of chemotherapy, with Billy Sherwood announced as subbing for him, but with Wetton due to return for a second set of shows. However, his death was announced 31 Jan. In a Feb 2017 interview, Downes said, "John had already said that he wouldn't be well enough to do the tour and I had worked with Billy Sherwood in Yes and what was meant to be something of a temporary thing has become a full-time gig for him since things took a turn for the worse with John, who died earlier this week." Sherwood is continuing with the band, "until further notice", as he put it in a Mar 2017 interview.

In a statement about Wetton's passing, Downes said:
We were planning another album, but sadly he was not well enough to complete it. I feel heartbroken about this, as I knew John thought it was to be one of our finest albums to date. I remain as proud as ever of our Wetton/Downes writing partnership. I am hoping one day that I will be able to finish it, and that it will be appreciated by all those who loved his and our music, and most importantly, a legacy he would have been proud of.

Life will not be the same without him. And words are not really enough to describe the loss I feel right now, and the many friends and fans all over the World will also be feeling. It is the end of an era for all of us. But we will soldier on - the music of John Wetton needs to be heard loud and clear from the rooftops.

Asked if they planned to complete the album in the Feb 2017 interview, Downes replied, "Yes. I think so. He had a lot of material for it. I think we will definitely do something with it because I think John would like me to do that." And asked whether he will ever record this material, Downes replied on Twitter in Sep 2017, "Definitely." The same month, answering another tweet on the question, he said, "At some point, hopefully..." The Oct 2017 issue of Prog quoted Downes as saying, "I'd like to put something together as a tribute to him and get some of the great players he worked with over the years on there." In a Jun 2017 interview, Downes said, "John and I were in the process of writing a new Asia album when he died[.] I think it would be a great a testament to John's work and career to try and get some closure and get that done. It's in my mind to do that at some point." To the Feb 2018 issue of Prog, Downes said, "I am personally committed to finishing the songs we had started in 2015/2016." Asked on Twitter on 20 Apr 2018 about plans for releasing this material, Downes replied, "Working on it".

Work on this material may go back to Jul 2015. In a late Jan 2016 interview, Downes said he'd "been writing with John Wetton for another Asia album" and, on 11 Feb, both Downes and Wetton tweeted about meeting up to work on a new album. Wetton said: "Looking forward to (yet) more writing today with @asiageoff Mr.Downes. Next ASIA record moves along apace." Downes later said: "Excellent day in Bomo with my old chum @arkangel2605 [Wetton's Twitter account] Very productive - new Asia album on the way!" On 3 Mar 2016, Wetton then travelled to meet Downes in Wales "to formalise new ASIA material", according to a tweet he made. Downes tweeted afterwards: "Excellent day with @arkangel2605 today at my studio. New Asia album en route!" In a Mar 2016 interview (possibly conducted in Feb), Downes said, "I've been working with John on some material since last year [2015] actually. John's been sick for the last year or so now and has been having some fairly extensive medical treatment. In between that we've been putting together some songs that we hope sooner or later we will actually go into the studio and do another Asia album." In an Apr 2016 interview, Downes said: "I have been working with him [Wetton] on some new material and hopefully we will get an album out in the not too distant future." In a later Apr 2016 interview, Downes said: "we are still writing and we [sic] be doing an album with John Wetton towards the end of [2016]." A May 2016 tweet by Wetton showed a CD-R and said, "next ASIA record is on here, now we just have to record it!" In an Oct 2016 interview, Downes said: "Asia, hopefully we'll get that back up and running soon. That's the idea. We've been working on new material, and we have a whole album planned." Wetton described the first song as 7.5 minutes long and as in 17/8. He also mentioned one song title was "Tattoo on Your Soul".

However, in another Jun 2017 interview, it was reported that Palmer "says it's too early to say if the new lineup, featuring Sherwood, will record together." In another Jun 2017 interview, Palmer talked about events and the future more broadly:
In January 2017, [...] Wetton succumbed to colon cancer, which Palmer said took him and his bandmates by surprise. They had known he was sick, but he was getting treatment.

“We thought he’d make the March period for the tour, but he suddenly took a turn at the very end,” Palmer said. “Those last three weeks, he was very ill and he passed.”

Asia had already committed to opening for Journey [see below], but Palmer wasn’t sure if they could continue or even if Journey [...] still wanted them [...]

But the band’s management said, “They still want you. Please find a bass player.”

As it happened, they had one in mind.

Before Wetton died, Palmer said the band had some difficult discussions about whether Asia would carry on.

The drummer said, “Before he did go, we asked Jo[h]n if we were to carry on, who would you want to take your place?”

Wetton chose Billy Sherwood [...]

Beyond this tour, Palmer doesn’t know what will happen next. He will keep playing music — that much is certain, but whether it’s with just his own band, with Asia or as part of another group, he’s not entirely sure.
Shortly before Wetton's death, in comments in Jan 2017, Palmer said, "I wasn't going to be making the next Asia album anyway because I was a bit concerned about the direction of the band. It was getting a little bit too middle of the road. I didn't realize that John was this ill when I made this announcement to him, so obviously I'll review that. If he can record at all I'll look at the situation again."

Touring
Asked about Asia plans, Downes tweeted late Sep 2018 that, "Nothing planned this year for Asia as yet, but some ideas for next year [2019] surfacing." At a Carl Palmer's ELP Legacy show in Oct 2018, Palmer confirmed to a fan that there would be touring in 2019, with his manager saying it would be "part of a package next summer", but with the line-up still to be determined. In a Nov 2018 video on Facebook, Sherwood's colleague on another project, Elisa Furr, mentions a 2019 Asia tour. Asked when it is, Sherwood said, "Allegedly March."

In an early Mar 2018 interview, Downes said, "hopefully will also be able to do something with Asia too in the Autumn." In a different article, but based on the same interview, when asked about Asia, Downes had more to say:
We`re still in limbo at the moment.  We had a tour [...] last year [...] which we did with Billy Sherwood. [...] I think it`d be nice for Asia`s music still to be heard.  I`ve discussed it at great length with Carl and we might make plans to continue at some point.  There`s some great songs there and not just the famous ones. There`s a great weight of good material below the surface so it`d be a shame if they were put in a chest and locked away for good.
On Twitter on 30 Apr 2018, when asked about Asia touring with Sherwood, Downes said, "There is nothing planned at this stage, but there may well be later in the year." In a mid-Mar 2018 interview, Sherwood said, "I'd love to do more [Asia] shows. It's just getting the opportunity to do those shows. The shows we did with Journey last year were amazing. It was obviously rough emotionally but we all enjoyed each other's company, so if it can go on, it will."

In a May 2018 interview, Downes said of Asia:
we are on hold for the moment because Carl [Palmer] is off doing some stuff and I am working on the Yes 50 stuff at the moment. Certainly it was a big blow when we lost John 18 months ago
In a Jun 2018 interview, Palmer said:
Geoff and I have talked a little bit about it [continuing Asia]. As of right now, we have nothing planned at all. Geoff, as you know, is very busy with the Yes#50 tour. I’m just back from South America. We will resume our discussions at some point, as we would like to continue with Asia. As of right now, we just don’t know how we are going to do it, or who we are going to do it with. It’s open to discussion, and it will resume at some stage – but how, I can’t tell you at the moment.
In a Jul 2018 interview, Downes said, "At the moment, Asia is still trying to come to terms with not having John on board, but I'm sure we'll do something eventually. Asia's music is something that needs to be upheld. I think John would want that."

Management is by Martin Darvill.



John Wetton memorial box set
In Jun 2017, Asia's management, QEDG Management, tweeted that they are "planning an Extraordinary Box Set commemorating John's career, for release on John's 70th birthday on 12 Jun 2019. We invite fans to send memories, mementos, videos, photos, thoughts etc which can be incorporated. Please send to management@qedg.co.uk". John's son, Dylan, is working on the box set, which I expect to include Asia material.

Asia Featuring John Payne
In early 2006, Asia had consisted of Geoff Downes (keys), John Payne (bass, vocals, guitars), Guthrie Govan (guitars) and Jay Schellen (CIRCA:, ex-Conspiracy, Billy Sherwood, ex-World Trade, ex-Peter Banks, since worked with Yes; drums, backing vocals), when Downes left for the reunion of the original band. Payne/Govan/Schellen then formed GPS, with Ryo Okumoto (Spock's Beard) on keys. The Asia Featuring John Payne name was contractually agreed with the reunion band on 9 May 2006, but Payne did not assemble the band until later, after GPS had failed to take off commercially. In May 2007, Payne/Govan/Schellen announced the formation of Asia Featuring John Payne (MySpace page), with Erik Norlander (ex-Ayreon) later announced on keys. Since then, AFJP have played scattered US dates with a set list covering both the Payne and Wetton eras of Asia. Their first show under this name was in Jun 2008, but Govan soon left the band. From the beginning, Asia Featuring John Payne were working on their debut studio album. The project was initially trailed under the name Architect of Time as a continuation or completion of the 2005/6 Asia sessions (though some of that material was used on GPS's Window to the Soul). However, Payne was subsequently writing with Norlander and Norlander has said no material was carried over from Architect of Time; Payne also used the "Architect of Time" name for an unrelated solo release. The Asia Featuring John Payne album was then announced as to be called Americana. Substantial work on the album took place and "Seasons will Change" was released as a digital single (promo video on YouTube). However, Payne's Vegas show, Raiding the Rock Vault, kept him busy and the album languished. Norlander left in 2014, and Schellen left in 2015.

By 2017/8, the a line-up was Payne, Johnny Fedevich (drums), Jamie Hosmer (keys), Moni Scaria (guitar) and Jeff Kollman (guitar). A 24 Jun 2017 show in Florida had the following set: "Long Way from Home", "Only Time will Tell", "Who will Stop the Rain?", "Silent Nation", "Days like These", "Desire", "Go", "Time Again", "Different Worlds", "Military Man", "Heat of the Moment", "Sole Survivor". They played Buffalo, NY on 20 Jul 2018, without Kollman; set: "Long Way from Home", "Only Time will Tell", "Who will Stop the Rain?", "Silent Nation", "Days Like These", "Desire", "Go", "Time Again", "Don't Cry", "Military Man", "Heat of the Moment", encore: "Sole Survivor". Payne also continues with his touring show, The Rock Pack, featuring various and changing classic rock singers backed by Scaria/Kollman/Hosmer/Fedevich. Payne plays bass for the backing show and sings on Asia numbers. A Jul 2017 show, for example, had the following: "Only Time will Tell" (Payne lead vocals), "Time Again" (Payne), "Sole Survivor" (Payne), "Hold the Line" (Bobby Kimball (ex-Toto)), "Rosanna" (Kimball with Payne), "Separate Ways" (Steve Augeri (ex-Journey)), "Faithfully" (Augeri), "Anyway You Want It" (Augeri), "Double Vision" (Lou Gramm (ex-Foreigner)), "Cold as Ice" (Gramm), "Hot Blooded" (Gramm), "Heat of the Moment" (Payne), "Africa" (Kimball), "Don't Stop Believin'" (Augeri), "I Wanna Know What Love is" (Gramm with Augeri), "Jukebox Hero" (Gramm with Augeri). Dates are to be announced soon for a 2018/9 joint tour by Lou Gramm and AFJP.

At the beginning of 2017, Americana re-emerged. 9 Feb 2017 on Facebook, Payne said, "finally to mix Asia FJP Americana. Time to release some new material!" The album was eventually released Feb 2018 on Frontiers Records on CD and vinyl (King Records in Japan), but as the eponymous release of Dukes of the Orient (Facebook) rather than under the AFJP branding. The band are billed as Payne (vocals, bass, additional lead and rhythm guitar) and Norlander (keys), with the album also involving Kollman, Govan, Scaria and Bruce Bouillet (ex-AFJP, ex-The Scream, ex-Epidemic, worked with Motörhead) on guitar, Schellen on drums and Molly Rogers on strings. All tracks were written by Payne/Norlander. The album was produced and mixed by Payne; the cover is by Rodney Matthews (working with Oliver Wakeman, worked with Asia). Payne explained the re-branding in the promotional materials: "This started as an Asia FJP album initially but we, and the record company, felt releasing an Asia FJP album so close to the tragic passing of John Wetton lacking respect. That said we went the extra mile in the last year [2017] to make it something new." Promo also said, "Dukes of the Orient has its origins in 2007 as "ASIA Featuring John Payne," [...] Payne recruited Norlander [...] for tour dates in the US and initial recordings, some of which endured to appear on the Dukes of the Orient album here." They appear to be planning touring or other activity in 2018, with Payne explaining that, "The only permanent members are John & Erik; augmented with guests as needed. The door is open to everyone from our collective musical communities." AFJP continues as a separate activity (and without Norlander). On social media in Dec 2017, Norlander explained, "John and I started writing this music back around this time in 2007. It was originally intended for AFJP [...] We have spent 2017 finishing the recordings, even re-tracking some older keyboard, guitar and vocal parts for more analog goodness, and the full analog mix sounds absolutely beautiful." And then, "This year John and I did a lot more work on it as I mentioned and perhaps ultimately took it in a slightly different direction as a result. I left AFJP in 2014, but John continues to play live dates with his current version of the AFJP band, and I believe they have some shows booked for 2018. I'm not a part of that, but of course I wish them well. The Dukes are a totally separate band."

A promo video posted to Twitter in Apr 2018 gives the album's history, how Payne and Norlander began work on it, but how, as Payne said, his Vegas show kept him busy "for four years". He acknowledges that this "particularly pissed you off" to Norlander, but he got back in contact with Norlander to finish project. Norlander explained, "I felt strongly about re-naming the band because the Asia brand had changed so much", that is, the reunion Asia had changed line-up, Wetton had passed away, and they had toured with Sherwood, who he describes as "a good friend of ours". Norlander continued, "It just became so muddy to me. And I thought, let's not throw another variation of Asia into this mix. It's already complicated enough for people to follow. This is an album of all original music. You [Payne] and I wrote all of this. None of this was left over from past projects. Y'know, people had asked about the Architects of Time thing that you started with Geoff in 2006, after Silent Nation. None of it comes from that. You and I wrote this as a new band. Let's re-name it as a new band. Let's keep it clear." Payne responds: "I couldn't see that at first. [...] I'd been in the band since 1991. That's all I'd ever done from '91 onwards. [...] Now I see it [new name] as the right decision".



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